tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post6313555272508155496..comments2023-11-27T11:16:11.797-05:00Comments on Skeptic but Jewish: The Birth of ReligionBaruch Spinozahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-87788794344534816942015-03-27T01:22:39.840-04:002015-03-27T01:22:39.840-04:00"Religion is a propaganda machine and a force..."Religion is a propaganda machine and a force for social engineering,intended essentially to ensure obedience to the rulers and to raise revenue for them"<br />The Real Da Vinci Code(http://askwhy.co.uk) MatureDuraihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03651425180677136086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-18738848767116286792010-06-13T14:49:38.276-04:002010-06-13T14:49:38.276-04:00Well, I don't like your definition, but it is ...Well, I don't like your definition, but it is your blog, so fair enough. However, on your point about the state - true enough, but what I'm saying people are sacrificing their reason to is not the state so much as statism. Statism is a choice - you can choose to see the state as an armed aggressor, or you can adopt a statist viewpoint.Puzzledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12866127197554237039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-40693200797280954142010-06-11T17:42:07.397-04:002010-06-11T17:42:07.397-04:00Puzzled, I wrote about what a religion is back her...Puzzled, I wrote about what a religion is back here ( http://skepticbutjewish.blogspot.com/2010/03/what-is-religion-part-1.html ). I never seen a good definition for religion so I had to make one up. This is the one I try to stick to. <br /><br />One more thing about the state. People never exchanged anything for the state. They never consented to it. It was rather mandated upon them on birth. So if you define religion as "ideology to which you sacrifice reason and abilitity for comfort and safety" then statism cannot be a religion. Besides your definition for religion is not a useful one.Baruch Spinozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-34369864200330974692010-06-11T17:03:45.838-04:002010-06-11T17:03:45.838-04:00What is the distinction you are making here Baruch...What is the distinction you are making here Baruch? Something is a religion, it seems to me, if it is an ideology to which you sacrifice your reason and ability to make choices, in exchange for feelings of comfort and safety, and perhaps purpose. How is that not an accurate description of the state?Puzzledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12866127197554237039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-68222111166755934252010-06-11T16:37:35.794-04:002010-06-11T16:37:35.794-04:00"Statism is a religion, too.":
Statism ..."Statism is a religion, too.":<br /><br />Statism by itself is not a religion. But in many cases it seems like a religion. It is amazing the worship people have towards the state, and it is amazing what people think the state can do, as if it is some diety. Religion is what gave birth to the first states (as I explain), so they go together. This is why the church and state were together.Baruch Spinozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-51727593061851411112010-06-11T14:43:40.003-04:002010-06-11T14:43:40.003-04:00Statism is a religion, too. I think you'll lik...Statism is a religion, too. I think you'll like my latest blog post, Spinoza - please leave your thoughts on it!Tovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13810096432831688198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-44394832870122594032010-06-11T13:46:36.400-04:002010-06-11T13:46:36.400-04:00It is written Satan has deceived the whole world u...It is written Satan has deceived the whole world until the heel of time when a woman shall bruise him by exposing his lies. Check out the bruising of Satan at<br />http://thegoodtale.blogspot.com<br />Please read all of the posts to see the whole pictureThe Good Talehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11574105752086912139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-28397726596078429822010-06-11T10:51:05.124-04:002010-06-11T10:51:05.124-04:00"I'm no expert but aren't there other..."I'm no expert but aren't there other theories of how religion started?": <br /><br />Maybe. But this is what I think happened. I have absolutely no evidence to back this up except from my observation as how religion functions in the world. I am not concerned about this though. People who complain and say I need evidence before I can form ideas are boring and uncreative people. Sigmund Freud created his interesting ideas with no evidence, so did Freidrich Nietzsche, and many others. I will admit that I am entirely making everything up that I am saying here and based on some other ideas I have heard. But what I think is based on observation and I will be willing to test it. Until that time I will invent up explanations.Baruch Spinozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-35939219233695314942010-06-11T09:23:06.494-04:002010-06-11T09:23:06.494-04:00I'm not sure if agree with your initial premis...I'm not sure if agree with your initial premise you say that<br /><br />"A way to expose an idea for its absurdity is by looking at the origin behind an idea."<br /><br />However it's well known that religion has evolved a lot since its inception. I hardly see how the absurdity of religion in its original form can be used as an argument against religion today. It a comparison between two completely different things.<br /><br />Also I think your description of the beginnings of religion is a bit of generalization.I'm no expert but aren't there other theories of how religion started?Shilton HaSechelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11445959470426455186noreply@blogger.com