tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post6953185336760687724..comments2023-11-27T11:16:11.797-05:00Comments on Skeptic but Jewish: Liberal Lunacy 3: Tea Party RacismBaruch Spinozahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-43533495992639431942010-06-08T23:28:06.230-04:002010-06-08T23:28:06.230-04:00"This isn't invented racism although it i..."This isn't invented racism although it is possible that the level of racism is being exaggerated. There are a heck of a lot of pictures of racist slogans and signs by Tea Partiers. See for example:"<br /><br />You should read my first paragraph to the Jewish Atheist, it applies to you as well. Sure you can find racists in the movement, I will not deny that. That does not make the movement itself racist. For a movement to be racist it needs to be motivated by racism. Having some racist members is completely irrelevet. <br /><br />What is the problem with the picture you send? I do not even see it. Are they making fun of black-English? That is the only thing I can think of. That is not so bad. Come on, you need to find an authentic picture which says something like "I want to keep blacks as slaves" or something like that. I am sure those exist, but that is irrelevent at calling the tea party a racist group. <br /><br />You should read my two part post called "What is Racism?". I think I offer the best definition of racism that anyone has ever offered. Yes, I realized that I what I said is overly arrogant, but I am an overly arrogant boy and have no problem with arrogance. In fact, I think there is a virtue in arrogance, but that is beside that point. Read those posts. It is very important to understand what racism really means and what it does not.Baruch Spinozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-49151257000906176722010-06-08T23:22:17.003-04:002010-06-08T23:22:17.003-04:00Jewish Atheist: You cannot condemn an entire movem...Jewish Atheist: You cannot condemn an entire movement for racism is some of its members are racists. If the majority was then you have a case. But the majority is not racist and there is no evidence that is the case. You will object to me and say that I was unfair to generalize to all liberals what I said. I should have no said "the liberals". I can anticipate you saying that. However, if you read my introduction to my Liberal Lunacy series you would realize that I already addressed that problem. Liberals here refer to the people who think tea parties are racist and call themselves liberals. <br /><br />"Liberals aren't inventing racism.": <br /><br />You are not being very observant of the world then. It is nearly obvious that liberals like to play the race card at any oppurtunity they get. The lowlifes like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson made their entire career of playing the race card and crying racism at any chance they get. Shouting racism whenever there is a chance is a liberal vice. Liberal talk shows and news programs have the single to most popular issue discussed everyday and that is racism. Every day. That is the one thing you can always assume to hear from a liberal program. So you are very wrong about this point. <br /><br />"too many right-wingers just don't want to admit who their allies are.":<br /><br />I have no problem admitting that the KKK and I agree on a lot of things. I will never hide that. In fact, I will sometimes mention that, like now, because I find it very humorous. But it does not bother me in the slightest. I will make a post on that explaining more. At the moment I do not want to get off topic.Baruch Spinozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-30993048115923576542010-06-08T20:55:44.962-04:002010-06-08T20:55:44.962-04:00This isn't invented racism although it is poss...This isn't invented racism although it is possible that the level of racism is being exaggerated. There are a heck of a lot of pictures of racist slogans and signs by Tea Partiers. See for example:<br /><br />http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/racism.jpg<br /><br />While there are claims that some of these have been photoshopped, some have clearly not been. See for example: http://www.mediaite.com/online/analysis-was-the-notorious-racist-tea-party-sign-forged-we-believe-not/<br /><br />There are also many videos on Youtube of directly racist statements made by Tea Partiers.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00637936588223855248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-80365412170698593122010-06-08T17:42:51.177-04:002010-06-08T17:42:51.177-04:00First, there is no "the left." "Th...First, there is no "the left." "The left" is comprised of many disparate groups that don't have much in common. White union workers, black social conservatives, Catholic Latinos, ubereducated WASPs, Jews, etc.<br /><br />Second, while I'm sure you can find a couple examples of someone using the Tea Party's demographics to make the case for their racism, the primary reason people suspect that they are racist is that their rhetoric is so insanely far from reality that it leaves people searching for an explanation. Surely they can't really believe Obama is a Muslim Marxist who hates America, right? So there must be some reason. Well, maybe it's that they're racist. However, I remember the anti-Clinton lunatics well, so I don't think it's largely about racism. I think it's largely that there are just a lot of stupid lunatics on the right.<br /><br />Third, there are many racist Republicans. People act like it's rude to mention it, but it's clearly true. One generation ago, desegregation was really controversial, particularly with Southern males. And today we're supposed to believe that all those Southern males who left the Democrats when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act have come to see the error of their ways? Or that zero percent of their children are racist?<br /><br />The racists are still out there, and mostly Republican. They just hide it because it's so politically incorrect now. Note how many people are still blatantly homophobic. You think in 30 years they're going to admit that they opposed gay marriage all those years ago? No way! They'll pretend to be offended that you dare to call them homophobic. But amongst each other, they'll still rail against the "fags."<br /><br />Or look at the immigration issue. Can you really tell me that if illegal immigrants were primarily Canadian WASPs that the Republican base would be equally as upset about the issue? No way. They really, really just don't like brown people. Oh, they'll pretend that they're just sticklers for the law, but they're never sticklers when it comes to torturing brown people, are they?<br /><br />Liberals aren't inventing racism. It's there, and too many right-wingers just don't want to admit who their allies are.Jewish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04616617537150446818noreply@blogger.com