tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post966671369705200471..comments2023-11-27T11:16:11.797-05:00Comments on Skeptic but Jewish: Should the Burqa be Banned?Baruch Spinozahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-69603979082309371232010-09-19T13:44:59.281-04:002010-09-19T13:44:59.281-04:00"a burqa is abusive because it significantly ..."a burqa is abusive because it significantly limits mobility and communication (that, in fact, is the point!); a yarmulke and going to shul do not.":<br /><br />What about genital mutilation (I mean "bris milah")? That is not abusive? It is. But if you want to ban the burqa then you should also be consistent and ban genital mutilation. You are not consistent on this issue at all.Baruch Spinozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-61731424985675947102010-09-19T10:04:28.962-04:002010-09-19T10:04:28.962-04:00a burqa is abusive because it significantly limits...a burqa is abusive because it significantly limits mobility and communication (that, in fact, is the point!); a yarmulke and going to shul do not.kisaritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181012456635737873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-7797470646101784562010-09-16T23:53:29.354-04:002010-09-16T23:53:29.354-04:00"I would differentiate between minors and adu..."I would differentiate between minors and adults. A minor who wears one is almost certainly being compelled.":<br /><br />I agree that parents have no right to forcefully make their children into what they want them to be. But there is no way to legislate this law without severly damaging the freedom of religion. <br /><br />A Jewish boy is compelled by his father to go to shul. Do we have the state take the kid away? No. Because there is no easy way to pass such a law without breaching the freedom of religion. <br /><br />My other problem with the state is that the state does not care about children. Even most bad parents are preferrable than a state. <br /><br />Jewish boys are also made by their parents to wear yamalkes, so if you are against the burqa then you should also be against little boys wearing yamalkes. Otherwise you are not being consistent. That is precisely because of what I said. There is no way this law can be compatible with the freedom of religion. So no, you are wrong on this issue too. <br /><br />"I would also differentiate between a public space and any institution or workplace where face to face communication occurs.":<br /><br />This is no issue at all. Private places can pass their own laws and Muslims would have to follow those laws. This means a Taxi company does not have to hire Muslim with burqas if they want their drivers to have open faces. That way it would be a disadvantage for Muslims to wear burqas because they would be discriminated against people who have their own standards. But as far as walking in the public street, it does not matter. People can dress as they so desire. If you are against that then you are anti-freedom, of course you would never admit it, because no person ever admits they are anti-freedom.Baruch Spinozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11879864721961862810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6587700778834733354.post-75036444334206434132010-09-16T20:52:50.132-04:002010-09-16T20:52:50.132-04:00I would differentiate between minors and adults. A...I would differentiate between minors and adults. A minor who wears one is almost certainly being compelled.<br /><br />I would also differentiate between a public space and any institution or workplace where face to face communication occurs. <br /><br />The public space bothers me too as I feel it is somewhat of a security risk to have bunches of people hiding their identities- I mean anyone could do anything- but so far that hasn't been borne out, so we should treat it exactly the same as a winter mask.kisaritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181012456635737873noreply@blogger.com